So when is the vote, and what is the
scope of motion we are voting on?
The vote will take place as part of the
AGM of both Parishes, to be held on Sunday
2 September at 11.30am at Holy Trinity
and 12 noon at BayWest Anglican Church.
The motion will include details such as
the timeframe for the formation of a new
Parish, the transition of staff, the transferring
of all assets and bequests, and the name
of the new Parish. The registrar is at
present drafting the motion, and it will
be printed in both Parishes bulletins
for two weeks preceding the AGM and vote.
If the majority vote ‘yes’,
what happens the Sunday after the vote?
The Sunday after the vote, Sunday 9
September we will be holding a combined
service with most HT and BW congregations
regardless of the vote outcome. It will
be at 10.30am at Hutchins Middle School
auditorium, and there will be an 8.00am
service at HT for those who would rather
a more liturgical service. The Sunday
after that, services will be as currently
held at BW and HT.
The Parishes need the approval of both
Diocesan Council and the Bishop before
the current Parishes can be closed, and
a newly merged Parish can commence. If
there is a majority vote from both Parishes
to merge, sometime in late September we
can expect to receive approval to become
a new Parish. On 4 November we will have
a special general meeting to vote in a
new Parish council, synod reps and nominators,
and to pass a budget. We would begin as
one new Parish from the 30 December, 2007.
Combined 10am services would be held
on 7 October and 4 November, 2007.
What is the process of appointing a
Rector?
This is an important and complex question.
If and when BW and HT cease to be separate
Parishes, stipended staff appointments
of both Parishes, including the Rector
cease to be. The Bishop would then appoint
a locum to oversee the Parish and supervise
the existing staff until such times as
a Rector is appointed to the new Parish
who can then confirm ongoing staff appointments.
On 4 November at the Special General Meeting,
Parish nominators will be elected. They
will meet as soon as is practical, and
will begin the process of seeking a Rector.
When they have reached a decision, they
will advise the Bishop of their preference,
and he will either accept their recommendation
and invite the candidate to be the Rector,
or he will ask them to reconsider and
bring forward another name. When agreement
on a suitable candidate is reached, an
appointment will be made by Bishop John.
What will happen to the existing staff?
All the existing staff will be accommodated
for in the new parish. A possible configuration
would be Emily and Deb responsible for
admin, Jill and Deb for small groups and
pastoral care, Mark for Soul Café,
Tim for missions, David for 10am, Mark
for children and families, Charles for
8am and Lawrenny Court, and Jacob for
Chinese ministry. We would look to employ
new interns for youth and music. David
would be responsible for staff supervision,
the university chaplaincy, progressing
the building program and preaching. In
time some of our existing staff may move
on, and we might then look to employ specialist
staff into the future as the need and
opportunity arises.
What will happen to the core identity
of my parish? Will it be lost?
The merger is about preserving and enhancing
the core identity of both parishes, not
destroying them. Both are edge of the
city evangelical strongholds, both function
as regional parishes drawing from across
the city, both have a history of raising
clergy and sending missionaries, both
have non-Anglo-Saxon congregations, and
both value outreach and children’s
youth and family ministries, as well as
catering for more traditional liturgical
congregations.
The newly merged parish is about continuing
all of the above traditions, yet doing
them more effectively and efficiently
together. Combining our staff will allow
us to specialise, staff developing key
areas of ministry. It will allow us to
run fewer Sunday worship services so as
to have more time and focus for mission
and other ministries. It will allow us
build modern all age friendly facilities
that facilitate a range of ministries.
How will I remain a part of my local
church family?
In bringing together two church families,
not to mention nine congregations, into
one church family in seven congregations
will not be without its challenges. Already
the two evening services have successfully
combined, having lost no-one because of
this process. People will be able to have
existing friends as part of their small
group if they wish, and can be pastorally
cared for by staff they already know and
trust. Jill, Deb and Mark will be focussed
on building the sense of church family
across the Sunday morning services. No
one is suggesting this will be simple
or will happen automatically, but it is
something we are all very committed to
making work.
What will be done to ensure people are
pastorally cared for and not burnt as
a result of this process?
We are very aware that this has been,
and will continue to be, a sensitive issue
and period for people. For that reason
we are planning to reallocate some of
Debbie Watkins time towards pastoral care
of those from Holy Trinity. Special attention
will also be given to integrating the
two parishes, and to prevent and ‘us’
and ‘them’ feeling taking
hold. The two evening services have been
successfully combined, and there is no
sense of ‘us’ and ‘them’
present there. This may involve sharing
meals, day trips, a camp, mixed small
groups etc. We will do our best to help
all move through and beyond the challenges
that face us.
What is the future of the Chinese Church?
Healthy and dynamic we pray. But let’s
be a bit more specific. If the HT vote
is ‘no’ then the Chinese ministry
remains a part of the HT Parish, and HT
is required to fund that ministry just
as it is required to fund any other service
or ministry it offers. Any talk of ‘cutting
loose’ the Chinese ministry is simplistic
and flawed. It is no easier to ‘cut
loose’ the 8am or 10am service than
it is the Chinese ministry. All parishioners,
whether Chinese, Anglo-Saxon or other,
are equally members of HT. All services
are currently supported by giving, investment
income and/or drawing down on capital.
If the vote in both parishes is ‘yes’
then Jacob and the Chinese church would
continue as an integral part of the new
parish. Given the fact that most of the
Chinese congregation already live in Sandy
Bay, it would make sense to move the ministry
to that location. If there is any shortfall
in income from the Chinese ministry in
relation to what the ministry costs to
run, this would be met by the new parish.
There is however an old maxim in missions
and church planting, that all ministries
should aim to become self sustaining,
self reproducing (in terms of both leadership
and membership) and self financing.
Do any of the assets of BW or HT go
to the Diocese as a whole?
No, all assets of the two merging Parishes
become the property of the newly merged
parish. Synod has placed a 25% levy payable
when parishes sell capital assets, although
as a rule assets that are sold to fund
the purchasing of other assets are not
subject to this levy. In other words,
if we sell a house to fund ministry we
can expect to pay the levy. If we sell
a house to develop property or buy another
house, the levy may not apply.
Why is the development of an existing
property favoured, rather than buying
a neutral ‘greenfield’ site?
Initially, there was an inclination
to purchasing a neutral site on which
to build the new parish centre. The property
working team has explored this option
and discovered the following:
Given current property sales in our target
area, a suitable sized property (2,500m2)
on the fringes of the CBD is likely to
cost between $3 and $4 million. The cost
to then build (or redevelop, or demolish
and redevelop) a new parish centre is
another $2 million. The total cost is
therefore about $5-6 million, whereas
the cost to redevelop existing sites costs
between $1.5 and 2 million. Even when
we factor in selling both our existing
churches and halls, each valued at less
than $1 million, it still costs about
$2–$3.5 million more to buy a greenfield
site than it does to redevelop on of our
existing sites. If God provides a great
site in an excellent location at an agreeable
price the new parish would have to seriously
consider it. But the steering committee
(made up of the staff and most of the
existing wardens of both parishes) agrees
it would be poor stewardship to commit
ourselves to spending millions more simply
to move to a neutral site.
Why is the development of the Sandy
Bay site preferred to the North Hobart
site?
For several reasons. The Sandy Bay site
is 38% larger (1815m2 versus 2500m2),
more level and has some existing buildings
that will be of use, making construction
cheaper. The Sandy Bay site is closer
to University, a strategic place for Chinese
and International students’ ministry,
as well as young adults who would be future
leaders of the church. The greatest proportion
of the current membership of both churches
lives in Sandy Bay (35%), and there are
few if any comparable churches, evangelical
or Anglican, in the immediate vicinity.
While the current Chinese church hall
could be utilised as a site to build a
new church centre, the site is a little
smaller and more challenging, and is closer
to other comparable evangelical and Anglican
churches that already do CBD type ministry
well.
What will happen to the HT church building?
The answer to this question is as yet
unclear. We need to allow the process
of closure and deconsecration to run its
course. No decision about the future of
the building has yet been taken.
What happens if one Parish votes ‘no’
to the proposed merger?
A ‘no’ vote does not mean
no change. Even if the Holy Trinity Parish
votes ‘no’ to merging with
BayWest, some very difficult decisions
will need to be made. HT is living well
beyond its means. If HT does not merge
with BW, it will need to make significant
cuts in operating costs. Continuing to
sell-off properties to fund ongoing costs
is not a long-term solution. The gap between
HT’s live-giving and operating costs
is so massive that staff will need to
be cut back. At present the live giving
within the Parish would pay just one staff
member, presumably the Rector. Thus it
is possible that the hours of all the
existing staff will need to be either
significantly cut back, or their positions
terminated before we would be in a position
to seek a new Rector. Failure to bring
our expenditure into line may ultimately
cause the Diocesan Council to place the
Parish ‘under review’. This
is a process whereby the Parish is investigated
as to whether it is wisely using what
God has entrusted it with and how it can
continue to operate. Further, all the
challenges with our existing properties
remain, and we would need to address them
as a separate Parish.
Does voting ‘yes’ to the
merger somehow send the message I am in
support of closing down the Holy Trinity
Church Building?
Not at all. The merger vote is about
saying ‘yes’ to the notion
that we can minister and mission more
effectively together than what we can
apart. The process of deconsecration is
an entirely different matter. It is about
acknowledging that due to various circumstances
(including occupational health and safety
concerns, costs of repair, suitability
of building and associated ministry spaces,
and declining congregation size and live
giving) that the Holy Trinity Church no
longer represents our best option for
weekly worship. That is why a building
is consecrated – for weekly worship.
Deconsecrating a building is not the same
as condemning it or planning to demolish
it. It is simply saying we do not intend
to use it for our weekly worship. Whether
or not the building can be repaired, preserved
or retained in some way is a multifaceted
question that involves the heritage council,
the Hobart City Council, levels of state
and federal government funding, and the
Diocesan Council, the Trustees of the
Diocese and the Bishop.
Does voting ‘no’ to the
merger secure the future of the Holy Trinity
Church Building?
Again, not at all. The indications from
Diocesan Council, and the progress of
the deconsecration process to date imply
that for various reasons (as alluded to
above) the Holy Trinity Church while beautiful,
is also problematic. In the opinions of
many within the Parish and the Diocese
it does not represent the best option
for the future of Holy Trinity Worship
services. This is a reality should the
Parish choose to merge or remain separate.
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